Gaz 300 7,336 Posted November 30, 2020 Author Share Posted November 30, 2020 The worst crash I have ever seen with the modern F1 car. The halo saved his head but if he was knocked unconscious he would of burned to death and the metal armco barrier failed to do its job so a lot of answers needed. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Bones28 612 Posted November 30, 2020 Share Posted November 30, 2020 It was an amazing escape, halo saved his life. Quote 1991 Nissan 300zx TT 😎 2002 Porsche 996 3.6 project 🤘 1995 Nissan 300zx TT Crashed 😭 1997 Jaguar XK8 Scraped ☹️ Link to post Share on other sites
TonyB 197 Posted November 30, 2020 Share Posted November 30, 2020 And the FIA need to ensure there are no bits of armco or any concrete blocks FACING the drivers. They should all be going with the flow of cars and would have prevented such a huge accident, Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Gaz 300 7,336 Posted November 30, 2020 Author Share Posted November 30, 2020 13 minutes ago, TonyB said: And the FIA need to ensure there are no bits of armco or any concrete blocks FACING the drivers. They should all be going with the flow of cars and would have prevented such a huge accident, Plus there should be no spaces between the armco. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
phutumsch 2,057 Posted November 30, 2020 Share Posted November 30, 2020 It was human error though, drivers are advised to not abruptly change direction at the start or at any restart. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
TonyB 197 Posted November 30, 2020 Share Posted November 30, 2020 Yes, but if what I described isn't sorted in the way I said then its an accident waiting to happen Think of Jules Biachi. Now they wont have trucks inside the fencing except under safety car control and I doubt that will last long and be red flagged instead. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
TonyB 197 Posted November 30, 2020 Share Posted November 30, 2020 3 hours ago, Gaz 300 said: Plus there should be no spaces between the armco. I don't see that would be too bad if the overlap was going with the flow of cars. I can think of several circuits where that occurs. If a car hits the upside of an overlap and slides along the overlap there still wouldnt be a projection to cause the driver harm. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Gaz 300 7,336 Posted December 1, 2020 Author Share Posted December 1, 2020 Hamilton out of Sakhir GP due to a positive covid 19 test.! https://www.formula1.com/en/latest/article.breaking-hamilton-ruled-out-of-sakhir-grand-prix-after-testing-positive-for.43GvWfdyvajkyisofT26LX.html Quote Link to post Share on other sites
craig 1,155 Posted December 1, 2020 Share Posted December 1, 2020 The halo saved his life, for sure, but he also had a lot of luck on his side as well. If the car had got wedged just a little further back in the armco, so if it had rebounded back a little after the roll bar hit the armco and stopped him, the armco across the top of the halo would have made escape impossible. That's not a negative on the halo, just an observation on the circumstance. Lucky he didn't get knocked unconscious too, as already noted. The gap between the rows of armco should be removed, by designing them to interlock, unless they become a one piece section. The gaps, or even a missing bottom row of armco that you see on many roads and motorways are a massive danger, especially to a sliding biker too. The armco was mostly going in the right direction Tony, it was a blunt hit purely because he was veering across the circuit at that point, if he had just run wide earlier, and was still going in the right direction, there would have been a much simpler deflection. On a lighter note, it was strange to see him escape and jump from behind the barrier over to track side of the barrier to get to safety, when he was already on the safer side. I am sure that was instinct kicking in, when stood up in the cockpit and feeling the armco to hand, jump over it away from the fire, as well as seeing someone trying to pull him clear. Did you see that his visor appeared to have melted a little too, although i am unsure if that would just be the tear off strips that melted, making it look like the visor had too, as i would expect the visor to be a bit more resilient than that? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Gaz 300 7,336 Posted December 1, 2020 Author Share Posted December 1, 2020 Good points Craig. Thank God he got out is all I can say and no matter how dire the situation is when the adrenaline kicks in you will do what ever it takes to get out of it. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Gaz 300 7,336 Posted December 1, 2020 Author Share Posted December 1, 2020 Martin Brundle has some good views on the accident, https://www.skysports.com/f1/news/24096/12147865/martin-brundle-romain-grosjeans-crash-escape-and-the-miracles-of-bahrain?fbclid=IwAR0ixRXNVdHryPQLqqqt6XSDwlCFIiYieMB16qD9Yl6k_Y_qMJr9XqEgMrM Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Bones28 612 Posted December 1, 2020 Share Posted December 1, 2020 6 hours ago, Gaz 300 said: Hamilton out of Sakhir GP due to a positive covid 19 test.! https://www.formula1.com/en/latest/article.breaking-hamilton-ruled-out-of-sakhir-grand-prix-after-testing-positive-for.43GvWfdyvajkyisofT26LX.html Oh well bet Bottas is jumping for joy. Quote 1991 Nissan 300zx TT 😎 2002 Porsche 996 3.6 project 🤘 1995 Nissan 300zx TT Crashed 😭 1997 Jaguar XK8 Scraped ☹️ Link to post Share on other sites
Gaz 300 7,336 Posted December 1, 2020 Author Share Posted December 1, 2020 20 minutes ago, Bones28 said: Oh well bet Bottas is jumping for joy. Now we will see what Bottas can do and will they put another driver in Hamiltons car? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
A 2X OK 79 Posted December 1, 2020 Share Posted December 1, 2020 I am being Furloughed thursday so am free this weekend . . . 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Gaz 300 7,336 Posted December 2, 2020 Author Share Posted December 2, 2020 So George Russell of Williams is driving Hamiltons car this weekend. A great opportunity for him and I wish him well. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
TonyB 197 Posted December 2, 2020 Share Posted December 2, 2020 Let's see what he can do in a highly competitive car. I for one reckon he'll be a star Sent from my SM-G977B using Tapatalk Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Gaz 300 7,336 Posted December 15, 2020 Author Share Posted December 15, 2020 Thats in for another season with a Mercedes and Hamilton dominance. But last race was all Max Verstappen leading from start to finish and even thought he had fastest lap untill an ex team mate stole it from him in the last lap. The ups and downs of F1 lol' Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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